singhsa3
07-18 03:14 PM
Oh Boy!, I feel like hugging you (Jadu ki zappi). By the way my story is very similar to you
Came to USA in 1999 to do MBA from a top US school. Joined a multinational org in 2001, filled my labor in 2002, got laid off in 2005, Filled my another labor in 2005.
But look , I am cool!:)
Frist, sorry for the confusion. I do have a 05/2007 PD at Atlanta PERM center. I came to the country in 1999 for grad school, started working with OPT in 2001, converted to H1 in 2002, laid off in 2002, started working again in 2002 with a new employer, filed labor in 2004 and got stuck in BEC ever since. The employer refused to file PERM, so I had change to a new company in 2006, and had PERM filed in 2007 and got stuck there again. Your are right, I am technically not in BEC, but psychologically I always feel I am in there.
I did not know what was 'disruptive' and 'inappropriate' about what I said. This is a board for BEC victims, so BEC victims are not allowed to express our frustration? I just expressed my depress and my concerns over how much this will retrogress the PD without targeting anyone. When tons of people run in front of our queue and shut us out in cold, we are supposed to 'enjoy the moment' with them? If so, when USCIS said no one can file 485 on July 2nd, why none of the people enjoy the happiness with those who already filed, because that will make their processing time much faster. People said we should feel happy for those who can file, because they now can get EAD/AP for their spouses, as if our spouse do not need EAD/AP. And as a result of this total mess, I don't think we'll have hope in another several years to see the date current.
IV core keeps telling us, BEC is always on their agenda. Really? If they did not even understand our pain and consider our frustration a disruption to people's happiness, how can we expect them to help? I still think IV is a great org, as it's the first such organization to speak out for legal immigrants. But when it comes to BEC victims, I did not see IV changed anything, or intend to change anything.
btw my original ID is still being banned
Came to USA in 1999 to do MBA from a top US school. Joined a multinational org in 2001, filled my labor in 2002, got laid off in 2005, Filled my another labor in 2005.
But look , I am cool!:)
Frist, sorry for the confusion. I do have a 05/2007 PD at Atlanta PERM center. I came to the country in 1999 for grad school, started working with OPT in 2001, converted to H1 in 2002, laid off in 2002, started working again in 2002 with a new employer, filed labor in 2004 and got stuck in BEC ever since. The employer refused to file PERM, so I had change to a new company in 2006, and had PERM filed in 2007 and got stuck there again. Your are right, I am technically not in BEC, but psychologically I always feel I am in there.
I did not know what was 'disruptive' and 'inappropriate' about what I said. This is a board for BEC victims, so BEC victims are not allowed to express our frustration? I just expressed my depress and my concerns over how much this will retrogress the PD without targeting anyone. When tons of people run in front of our queue and shut us out in cold, we are supposed to 'enjoy the moment' with them? If so, when USCIS said no one can file 485 on July 2nd, why none of the people enjoy the happiness with those who already filed, because that will make their processing time much faster. People said we should feel happy for those who can file, because they now can get EAD/AP for their spouses, as if our spouse do not need EAD/AP. And as a result of this total mess, I don't think we'll have hope in another several years to see the date current.
IV core keeps telling us, BEC is always on their agenda. Really? If they did not even understand our pain and consider our frustration a disruption to people's happiness, how can we expect them to help? I still think IV is a great org, as it's the first such organization to speak out for legal immigrants. But when it comes to BEC victims, I did not see IV changed anything, or intend to change anything.
btw my original ID is still being banned
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nb_des
07-06 02:54 PM
I believe it is very practical and if it is included in SKIL bill I do not see any opposition coming in senate or house just on this point. L1 spouses were not allowed to work till few years back congress amended it and allowed them to work. Same is very much possible for H4 also.
Those of you who do not agree remeber L2 were also dependednt few years back and are still dependents but they were allowed to work few years back by Congress.
Those of you who do not agree remeber L2 were also dependednt few years back and are still dependents but they were allowed to work few years back by Congress.
gjoe
12-10 05:30 PM
It is good to know that state chapters are semi internet. I beg to differ with you regarding "feeling that you are in trouble". Expecting people to feel that they are in trouble by telling them so will never work. If someone thinks they are in trouble they would work out the solution on their own, they will not sit and wait for someone to help. This is a flawed assumption.
Anyways I am going to join the IV chapter to share more of my ideas to help this cause. Already sent a PM to chanduv23
State boards are kind of semi internet usgae only (Though not forum...). But those also do not make passive ones come ahead. So real issue is not the type of meet, the first real issue is feeling that you are in trouble..and 2nd is to stand up for fighting against that. And 3rd.. yes through IV we will be able to do this and so become active.
Anyways I am going to join the IV chapter to share more of my ideas to help this cause. Already sent a PM to chanduv23
State boards are kind of semi internet usgae only (Though not forum...). But those also do not make passive ones come ahead. So real issue is not the type of meet, the first real issue is feeling that you are in trouble..and 2nd is to stand up for fighting against that. And 3rd.. yes through IV we will be able to do this and so become active.
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leoindiano
03-05 09:28 AM
May be for 5000$, we need to ask, Run the analysis quarterly and send the details. Since, the query/program is written already, how big a deal it is to run and publish it.
I am in for contribution.
I am in for contribution.
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kumar_77
04-27 10:27 PM
Just sent 50$ through pay pal
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chanduv23
09-25 01:09 PM
Now when explained like this anyone would understand. Also do see the point you are making and is worth a try. Is the core team looking into this? Do they need any assitance from us?
Some are good, but some are hard nuts, they take immigrants for granted. A lot of silent suferers constantly remain silent and crib about these Attorneys because they cannot move out of their companies and have to depend on them.
Some may not understand things in a good way
Some are good, but some are hard nuts, they take immigrants for granted. A lot of silent suferers constantly remain silent and crib about these Attorneys because they cannot move out of their companies and have to depend on them.
Some may not understand things in a good way
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nk2006
02-28 01:34 PM
If an H1 gets layed off, how soon must he leave before he is considered illegal status? And for practical purposes, does it matter (ie, is it ever enforced)? Does having severence extend the period (because you're technically still on payroll)?
Canadian, EB3, in 6th year H1, PD nov 04, 140 approved 2/07.
I got different explanations on this from different people and this is my understanding after reading different lawyer/employer opinions and after having gone thru one lay-off:
Technically you have to leave immediately. I am not sure if there is a clear law but lawyers suggest that we have to leave as soon as it is practical. INS/USCIS may be lenient if the time gap after job loss is very short (something like couple weeks). Many people quote a 30 day grace period after losing the job and I asked many lawyers � everyone said that there is no 30 grace period but they also told me that USCIS may be lenient if its less than 30 days and if we can give some reasonable explanation (if and when questions arise at the time of later 485 filing/approving). Does it ever enforced � not sure but its better to be on the cautious side. Severence period does not extend the period. The day we stopped going to office (stopped providing service to employer) is our final day.
Since you are a Canadian you can apply for a visitor visa (B1) � by applying the visa we will be in legal status until a decision is taken. B1 visa is generally approved if you give the reason of finishing up matters in US (like selling house/cars/closing bank accounts/credit accounts etc). I guess you are asking just to be informed but if it really happens another option for you is TN1 � if you have not yet applied for 485.
Canadian, EB3, in 6th year H1, PD nov 04, 140 approved 2/07.
I got different explanations on this from different people and this is my understanding after reading different lawyer/employer opinions and after having gone thru one lay-off:
Technically you have to leave immediately. I am not sure if there is a clear law but lawyers suggest that we have to leave as soon as it is practical. INS/USCIS may be lenient if the time gap after job loss is very short (something like couple weeks). Many people quote a 30 day grace period after losing the job and I asked many lawyers � everyone said that there is no 30 grace period but they also told me that USCIS may be lenient if its less than 30 days and if we can give some reasonable explanation (if and when questions arise at the time of later 485 filing/approving). Does it ever enforced � not sure but its better to be on the cautious side. Severence period does not extend the period. The day we stopped going to office (stopped providing service to employer) is our final day.
Since you are a Canadian you can apply for a visitor visa (B1) � by applying the visa we will be in legal status until a decision is taken. B1 visa is generally approved if you give the reason of finishing up matters in US (like selling house/cars/closing bank accounts/credit accounts etc). I guess you are asking just to be informed but if it really happens another option for you is TN1 � if you have not yet applied for 485.
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delhiguy79
07-22 12:57 AM
yea it is written but not in the secion of initial evidence ....
So its still a big confusion...............
So its still a big confusion...............
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immique
07-17 10:58 PM
Excellent response. I have been a silent admirer of IV for some time. IV has represented the aspirations of all the EB applicants. people should understand that the US allotment of visas to foreign Nationals is only based on what is fair for the country (US). It does not matter to them to what country the applicant belongs but what matters is the qualifications and their benefit to the advancement of the US. I am appauled to see some of the members racheting up this irrational discussion about the spillovers when DOS clearly stated recently what the intent of the law was. the sooner they get over this issue, the better for them and for every one on the forum as the existing rules will NOT change regarding the spillover. we have to concentrate our efforts on how we can improve conditions for every body affected by this retroression. efforts aimed at one category and that too one country will almost certainy fail. I am also shocked to see a few EB3 I expressing anger over dates moving for EB2. personally if I see a person from my country getting his visa approved, then I would feel very happy for him even if I am waiting for some time. I know it will be difficult, but atleast spare some joy for your country men and women who are getting some well deserved relief after such a long wait. one of my old friends told me once "if you have a friend from India, don't rely on him to help you, because you will not get much help moreover some people will only try to pull you down, but if you take people from other countries, it is exactly the opposite as they try to help each other in every possible way". I agree that it is very distressing for every one that the dates are retrogressed, but now that EB2 has moved, all of a sudden some people woke up from a deep sleep and started making these arguments that have no legal basis. None of these people expressed their anger when EB3 ROW was being preferred over more qualified EB2 I and C and making EB2 unavailable. I know a lot of people from EB2 protested at this wrong interpretation of the law, but I don't remember anyone ever criticizing IV for not taking up their cause even though we knew all along that spillover from EB1 to EB2 retrogressed countries was the right interpretation of the law. now some people are asking IV to take up an issue that is straight forward illegal as was clearly explained by DOS in a recent bulletin. instead of wasting time and efforts on such futile suggestions, people should concentrate on making some constructive effort along with IV helping every one involved in retrogression.
you must know something i don't.
aman kapoor is the president and founder of iv- of course you can argue he now has his GC but that fact is he is still the heart and soul of iv and runs the organization on a day to day basis. he is EB3.
the "core group" does not much exist in practical terms right now. there is instead a large "leaders group" that helps coordinate actions and strategy.
this group has a lot of active members- and i find it "comfortable" to say that the majority are EB3. which may actually count for something- since i actually do know somethings you don't :-)
no one stops anyone from doing anything. but whatever you do (and yes you actually have to DO, not just keep talking), has to have a sound basis. Many of the suggestions put forward have flaws, and actually papu and others have been pretty helpful in politely helping to point those out and suggesting changes. of course reddog took objection even to that! incidentally, just for the record, you may want to look at pappu's profile . HE IS EB3!
so what do you want anyway? should we go tell USCIS that leftover Gc from EB2 ROW should go to EB3 ROW instead of EB2 I/C? what about the 28.6% that should belong to EB2? and since you are EB3 I- how does this help you in any way? or should we tell them to stop the preference catogories in INA and make EB1=EB2=Eb3? somehow i do not think that is going to fly.
where were you when USCIS implemented vertical spillover in 2006 and left EB2 I in a U state while giving EB2 Gc numbers to EB3 ROW?
did you object then? did you start a campaign? did EB2 I folks here start saying that iv did not care about them?
in 2007 ordinarily, (like 06) EB2 I and EB3 I would have got only 2,800 GC each. because of iv's efforts in reversing the july bulletin, EB3 I got a huge number of Gc instead. many more than any other category. i don't remember anyone else standing up and saying that this was unfair and that iv is all about EB3I. and that's what a lot of anti iv folks say. that iv is all about EB3 India. so this is very ironical.
and i see here a comment that every campaign has been bad for EB3 india.
i guess july reversal was bad. i guess the campaign for recapture is bad. and the 2 year EAD is bad too. not to mention the gathering support to end country quotas.
you opened my eyes :-)
you must know something i don't.
aman kapoor is the president and founder of iv- of course you can argue he now has his GC but that fact is he is still the heart and soul of iv and runs the organization on a day to day basis. he is EB3.
the "core group" does not much exist in practical terms right now. there is instead a large "leaders group" that helps coordinate actions and strategy.
this group has a lot of active members- and i find it "comfortable" to say that the majority are EB3. which may actually count for something- since i actually do know somethings you don't :-)
no one stops anyone from doing anything. but whatever you do (and yes you actually have to DO, not just keep talking), has to have a sound basis. Many of the suggestions put forward have flaws, and actually papu and others have been pretty helpful in politely helping to point those out and suggesting changes. of course reddog took objection even to that! incidentally, just for the record, you may want to look at pappu's profile . HE IS EB3!
so what do you want anyway? should we go tell USCIS that leftover Gc from EB2 ROW should go to EB3 ROW instead of EB2 I/C? what about the 28.6% that should belong to EB2? and since you are EB3 I- how does this help you in any way? or should we tell them to stop the preference catogories in INA and make EB1=EB2=Eb3? somehow i do not think that is going to fly.
where were you when USCIS implemented vertical spillover in 2006 and left EB2 I in a U state while giving EB2 Gc numbers to EB3 ROW?
did you object then? did you start a campaign? did EB2 I folks here start saying that iv did not care about them?
in 2007 ordinarily, (like 06) EB2 I and EB3 I would have got only 2,800 GC each. because of iv's efforts in reversing the july bulletin, EB3 I got a huge number of Gc instead. many more than any other category. i don't remember anyone else standing up and saying that this was unfair and that iv is all about EB3I. and that's what a lot of anti iv folks say. that iv is all about EB3 India. so this is very ironical.
and i see here a comment that every campaign has been bad for EB3 india.
i guess july reversal was bad. i guess the campaign for recapture is bad. and the 2 year EAD is bad too. not to mention the gathering support to end country quotas.
you opened my eyes :-)
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SDdesi
06-04 07:10 PM
Heres an interesting reading on ILW's comments on the recent announcement for the audits.
http://www.ilw.com/immigdaily/digest/2008,0605.shtm
http://www.ilw.com/immigdaily/digest/2008,0605.shtm
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netnerd
07-17 03:01 PM
Does this attorney approachable ? Does he answer your phone calls ?
Does he promptly reply to your emails ? Does he clarify your doubts ?
Do you deal with him directly or does your company rep speak for you ?
How is his fees ? Is he expensive or affordable ?
I highly recommend for all of the reasons I have posted earlier on this page (pg 5) and 1 more:
Andrew himself is an immigrant from UK - he went to law school in Florida and had to endure the painful green card process himself.
He is very responsive to both phone calls and emails.
He will deal with you directly or with your company - any way you wish.
And most of all he is thoroughly professional - but extremely affordable - he only charged me+family total $1600 for entire GC processing starting from PERM --> I-140 --> I-485/EAD/AP (for me and my wife).
Hope this helps.
Regards,
netnerd
Does he promptly reply to your emails ? Does he clarify your doubts ?
Do you deal with him directly or does your company rep speak for you ?
How is his fees ? Is he expensive or affordable ?
I highly recommend for all of the reasons I have posted earlier on this page (pg 5) and 1 more:
Andrew himself is an immigrant from UK - he went to law school in Florida and had to endure the painful green card process himself.
He is very responsive to both phone calls and emails.
He will deal with you directly or with your company - any way you wish.
And most of all he is thoroughly professional - but extremely affordable - he only charged me+family total $1600 for entire GC processing starting from PERM --> I-140 --> I-485/EAD/AP (for me and my wife).
Hope this helps.
Regards,
netnerd
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risker
07-21 02:12 AM
Thank you ksircar for your strong support. You are absolutely right and you have logically laid out the reason for the case well.
Now it is time for gathering more support and momentum for the case so that we could do something.
I am ready to contribute. So please others jump in and show your support.
Now it is time for gathering more support and momentum for the case so that we could do something.
I am ready to contribute. So please others jump in and show your support.
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Hinglish
03-21 04:10 PM
I know....finally u do admit what u are .....
It doesn't really matter to me though...Point Proved..End of discussion
Hey... take 3 points from my side ...
It doesn't really matter to me though...Point Proved..End of discussion
Hey... take 3 points from my side ...
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vikramy
01-15 02:32 AM
I thought 140 can not be revoked after it has been approved. Was my understanding wrong? Can some one clarify me?
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manderson
07-17 08:15 PM
it should help u from getting banned.
on a cheerful note congrats to IV core team and everybody.
on a cheerful note congrats to IV core team and everybody.
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needhelp!
02-28 11:03 AM
I dropped the letters in my garage yesterday and thought I had picked them all up. But there were few that were hiding under the car. And this morning they came under the wheels :(
Trying to see if they can be revived and cleaned up.
Trying to see if they can be revived and cleaned up.
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number30
06-12 10:08 PM
This is for the ones who think that the discrimination based on EB3 or Eb2 is a bigger issue! I would not get into the discussion on why I think that IV is not just about EB2. Also, on our forums it's about reality and not empathy, which everyone should understand.
Now having said that, please direct your energy towards elimination of country limits rather than fighting a fight which was in your past. Why your company put you in EB3 and not EB2 is not something USCIS or US can control anyways. But when you are EB2 or EB3 with same qualification, experience and expertise compared to someone from say Europe, Australia and many other countries but China, India, Mexico and Philippines than why should that other person get it before you do when you applied before him???? What is America getting anything different from this other person?
Now talking about diversity for country limits India is more diverse than any other country in the world! And hey, most of them are already here in the country and waiting in queue, how is this helping the diversity?
What is use of that? At the year end all remaining numbers will come back to India and China. This year they got 9000 numbers all the numbers went in EB2 group. There is no advantages for EB3I. All you can achieve is pulling down the EB3 ROW by years to achieve may be 2 months advancement for EB3I. Best way is put the stricter norms for EB2 avoid the people misusing the EB2. So that these number will flow to EB3 like how the EB2 is getting numbers from EB1.
Now having said that, please direct your energy towards elimination of country limits rather than fighting a fight which was in your past. Why your company put you in EB3 and not EB2 is not something USCIS or US can control anyways. But when you are EB2 or EB3 with same qualification, experience and expertise compared to someone from say Europe, Australia and many other countries but China, India, Mexico and Philippines than why should that other person get it before you do when you applied before him???? What is America getting anything different from this other person?
Now talking about diversity for country limits India is more diverse than any other country in the world! And hey, most of them are already here in the country and waiting in queue, how is this helping the diversity?
What is use of that? At the year end all remaining numbers will come back to India and China. This year they got 9000 numbers all the numbers went in EB2 group. There is no advantages for EB3I. All you can achieve is pulling down the EB3 ROW by years to achieve may be 2 months advancement for EB3I. Best way is put the stricter norms for EB2 avoid the people misusing the EB2. So that these number will flow to EB3 like how the EB2 is getting numbers from EB1.
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lost_in_migration
04-09 04:35 PM
Please check your PM
cagedcactus
10-15 07:06 AM
The information, and guideline we got from you is going to help us a lot pappu... also many thanks to other chapter leaders who took time out and helped us learn the process.
Lets get going friends here at Michigan.....
we must fight this monster..... we must fight for our rights, and what is fair....
we must fight for our families and friends.....
Concentrate on the topics you want to discuss on, and bring more friends to the 20th meeting.....
Lets get going friends here at Michigan.....
we must fight this monster..... we must fight for our rights, and what is fair....
we must fight for our families and friends.....
Concentrate on the topics you want to discuss on, and bring more friends to the 20th meeting.....
snathan
07-22 11:22 AM
I'm a South Indian and I have never had issues with Hindi or Hindi-speaking people. In fact, many of my friends are Hindi-speaking and I'm quite well-versed with the language as well (why not?). You cannot make a blanket statement saying that everyone speaking a particular language is rude or has bad attitude. Just goes to show one's ignorance.
Just look around and see what's keeping this country together? You can move from NY to LA without having to think twice. Try doing that back home ;)
THINK!
Again its personal choice, desire and necessity.
Just look around and see what's keeping this country together? You can move from NY to LA without having to think twice. Try doing that back home ;)
THINK!
Again its personal choice, desire and necessity.
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